Rahmaanir laah Bismil-Raheem, Lahi Rabbil Alhamdulil-Alamin, wa wa assalam wing assalatu Rasulilah (saw) In the Name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate, all praise are to Allah Lord of the Worlds, and peace and blessings of Allah be upon His Prophet Muhammad (saw)
Why are we going?
Because leaders are inspired by two ideas: one, the extraordinary power of the technique. The technique has achieved such fabulous results, it would seem that could get what he wanted. And he thinks that whatever happens will fix the technique and if the oil runs out, the technique will draw, as I thought Franco, gold granite Escorial. The other idea is that religion tells us that humans have an immortal soul, which, says the Catholic Church, man is almost divine because God made in His image and likeness. Encouraged by this hope intangible and is created by a technique that can do what he wants.
Have we believe most of what we are?
We believe gods and do what we can do, and that if we do not need sound. Since the days of Greece humanity has progressed technically a fabulous way, but we have not learned to live in peace, to live, not to kill the neighbor. The favorite words of this culture are productivity, innovation and competitiveness. We are very strong in technique and very ignorant and lacking in wisdom. Too much science is not compensated by the manner of use.
Has that happened with nuclear energy?
That's what happens with Nuclear energy is important, but we can not use it. You see, we have failed to nuclear power what we do we have with oil: oil is the progress of the internal combustion engine, nuclear energy but we have not invented the internal combustion engine. Not master nuclear technology and meanwhile we risk disaster such as Japan.
What about Japanese people's attitude?
I are wondering profound. What I see on television, the faces of people: there are not fearful, desperate, weeping. No gestures as we have seen in Haiti, very understandable otherwise. But Japan is a truly exemplary composure. Japanese citizenship should teach a lesson to all. I have an admiration deep for these people. How they behave, how they cooperate. The Japanese people at this time is admirable, as is often the people are much more admirable than governments.
Does progress has left us with no control?
Progress is a word that implies an end, a goal, like a journey. But here they do not know where to go! Not only do not know where they go, the trouble is that not even know where to go. Sarkozy, Berlusconi and others who prefer not to name in Castilian and English do not know what they want. Living in peace is a goal, but it must educate ourselves and we are doing quite the contrary.
"Faced with this disaster will make us more human?
serve at least I hope so, but I'm afraid not, because we're so misdirected. In addition, we are taught very badly. The long-term solution of all is education, the preparation of human beings. That we would have to make progress and development. The first is that people argue and think on their own. We are educating the contrary, we are raised to produce and consume. No one prepares us to be more human, to be better. They say there is no alternative to this development, how it is not: be better instead of having more. The alternative is to become better educated.
I think that is not on any curriculum.
You see, most people do we become what we could be. Because development is not to be as or better than the others, but all that one can become. Hardly anyone, I am the first, comes to anything that might be. I'm still an apprentice myself. Would this make us more human catastrophe, to know ourselves members of nature, not gods.
Are universities prepared to do so?
This is just implemented, the university with Bolognese sauce, is the death of the university. The university was a temple of wisdom. What they do now a polytechnic school. Have given the university to finance and financiers they want to make money. That means that what is taught is to know to do things but not knowing how things are.
We've been talking about the culture as a product, legitimized by its contribution to GDP. Other virtues like truth or beauty are no longer important. What do you think?
A that is answered in a way: GDP is the measure of welfare.
Why have changed and now claims priority to the defense of freedom at the end of injustice?
Whenever you use the word freedom is to think to whom. Freedom for the poor means that not oppress me. But the rich are free to leave me hands free, I will do whatever I want and then exploits those who need it. When I speak of freedom I always remember the motto of the French Revolution. I'll tell you something that explained in class years ago: freedom fly like kites. Because it is tied flies. You take a kite and throw, not fly. But tie a string and then resist the wind and up. What is the kite string of liberty: equality and fraternity. That is, freedom answerable to others.
Why not interested in the injustices?
Because the values \u200b\u200bhave been degraded. By declaring that everything is good, everything is money, GDP and culture are money ... How widespread is corruption? Just that there are people in wholesale and others willing to buy them. Is there further degradation this? Today we do not respect anything: there are officials boasting of being accused and thought that people think is a big guy because I do not for anyone. How can a politician accused of a model citizen?
José Saramago said that capitalism was mediocrity.
course, and how right he was. Democracy is not government of the people anywhere. What vote? What makes us vote. In childhood, a priest comes into his head and dogmas. That begins to condition the mind and thought must be free, but freedom of expression. If the freedom of expression that expresses what you say you say, does not matter. What matters is what we think.
Do we need a revolution more than ever?
What we need is to re-educate. You may like nuclear disaster suggesting that what we are doing is not right. It complains that young people because they have no political sense. Not that happen, they want something else. Look, we will change is safe. Another world is safe, history is change. Right now we for a moment that I call barbaric because they have degraded all those values \u200b\u200bthat comment. It is an embarrassment to another stage different model. This capitalist culture five centuries has exhausted its possibilities.
Ya, but the culprits of the crisis has left unscathed.
course, because they have the power. What is Europe now? Nothing. We are no longer in the hands of financiers, but the three or four big companies measure of confidence. What have governments done? Have you removed the tax havens? Have corrected the behavior of banks? No way! The banks that created the crisis in 2008 has long since been replenished quietly and announce their profits, while the unemployed are unemployed. It call they are called, all governments act in obedience to the interests of capital.
What do you expect the younger generation?
I lived through the war and after the war, what was. The illusion was the well-being, the illusion was the Six Hundred. But today there are young people with ideals. That I am sure things will change. The more disasters there, the more they discredit those that lead to disasters. People do not react against the bankers. But the banker is like a tiger, not bad, because it eats tiger. The banker is lined against anyone because he is a banker, but the banker is created by society, society praises the supreme god is money. Not that they are bad bankers is that they still will have pity [laughs].
Why governments are degrading public education?
Because they are afraid and make concessions to the Church. But the powerful, the more concessions they make, the more demands are insatiable. Look what he's doing Esperanza Aguirre to teaching in the Community of Madrid. The essence of teaching is the teacher and teachers must be created, but of course, for this you need support school. Are cut education budgets is a disaster.
How does Spain after the next general election?
I fear that, as always, will lose one of the two parties. The RFP is the victory has not won. They have been asking for, but without saying how. Mr. Rajoy has never had an idea and for once was the public with a pointed paper, I asked a question and agreed sung, and did not know what to say. Rajoy today would be ideal president of Europe, because then Europe would do absolutely nothing. I fear that it will be defeated the PSOE, but will continue as before because things change. The PSOE is doing the right programs on issues like education. It is a capitalist government that depends on financial resources as a PP. The difference is that the PP wallow tightening the screws on the farm.
How can you defend intellectual and Vargas Llosa in his Nobel Lecture the existence of weapons of mass destruction?
The intellectual, by definition, is against the authorities. Among economists there are two types: those that are dedicated to making the rich richer and we intend to make the poor less poor. With the literary intellectuals same thing happens: the need to give the right to attack Iraq and that we are against. That was in a crime against humanity that has not prescribed.
Is clear what the outcome of this crisis?
I answer with one word: entropy. All that lives dies. When we are born we begin to die. I've been living 94 years, ie 94 years dying. It is a vital process. All previous empires went into decline. What did the English empire, how the French boom, what remains of the British Empire how the American empire has lasted? It's over: U.S. does not dominate as in 1945. Has a stronger army, but not the master of the world. It now has with China, Brazil and Russia.
What are the prospects?
The mathematician Poincare said: "The chaos is an order we do not know." For now we are in an order that we do not know. What are the prospects? As the next order. What will? I do not know. I have my ideas, but do not know.
Wonderful.
Does the order?
No, you .
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